{"id":1776,"date":"2024-01-09T22:33:13","date_gmt":"2024-01-09T22:33:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/?p=1776"},"modified":"2024-01-10T12:16:30","modified_gmt":"2024-01-10T12:16:30","slug":"what-plato-might-have-said-or-written-about-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/2024\/01\/09\/what-plato-might-have-said-or-written-about-ai\/","title":{"rendered":"What Plato Might Have Said (or Written) About AI"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"574\" height=\"363\" src=\"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/Plato_and_Socrates.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1777\" srcset=\"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/Plato_and_Socrates.jpg 574w, https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/Plato_and_Socrates-300x190.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 574px) 100vw, 574px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify\">The Greek philosopher Plato believed writing things down was a bad idea, this according to something he himself committed to paper when authoring \u2018Phaedrus.\u2019 &nbsp;Repeating sound advice from his accountant perhaps? More likely this touched on something still causing angst today, especially regarding the use of mobile phones and the Internet. &nbsp;Plato felt that writing was an ineffective means of teaching as it discouraged readers from thinking for themselves, instead they merely accepted the ideas of others. And to some degree you can see his point, especially as we now use Internet search as a prosthetic and our reliance on information stored on servers in London Docklands or Silicon Valley means that part of our brain which processed memories gets less exercise these days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify\">Just as it would have been impossible for Plato to eschew the use of pen and paper and commit his \u2018Republic\u2019 and other works to memory so it is likely that, during the writing of \u2018Timeous\u2019 he would have typed \u2018Atlantis\u2019 into Google Maps. (\u2018Plato at The Googleplex\u2019 by Rebecca Newberg Goldstein makes interesting reading in this respect.) And if Plato\u2019s philosophy had been developed with the assistance of OpenAI\u2019s ChatGPT what impact would this have had on the development of western thought? The conversations with the robot throw some light on this, providing objective insights into the working of the mind; the first dealing with consciousness and the second intelligence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify\">From the early days of AI, and the Turing test alluded to this, our subjective understanding of the human condition has been challenged. There is a growing acceptance that consciousness and the ability to reason are not unique to humans. Maybe had Plato\u2019s dialogs been with <a href=\"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/2023\/12\/12\/conversations-with-a-robot\/\" class=\"ek-link\">the robot<\/a> rather than Socrates even he would have been convinced that all human intelligence, not just the ersatz variety marketed by Google and Microsoft as AI, is artificial.<\/p>\n<div style=\"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;\" class=\"sharethis-inline-share-buttons\" ><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>What if Plato\u2019s philosophy had been developed with the assistance of OpenAI\u2019s ChatGPT <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/2024\/01\/09\/what-plato-might-have-said-or-written-about-ai\/\" title=\"What Plato Might Have Said (or Written) About AI\">[&#8230;]<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_editorskit_title_hidden":false,"_editorskit_reading_time":0,"_editorskit_is_block_options_detached":false,"_editorskit_block_options_position":"{}","footnotes":""},"categories":[59,60],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-1776","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-ai","7":"category-robot"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1776","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1776"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1776\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1791,"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1776\/revisions\/1791"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1776"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1776"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/steinkrug.co.uk\/magazine\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1776"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}